Vick Strizheus and the Four Percent Group
If you’ve been online, and interested in internet marketing, then you can’t have failed to have heard of Vick Strizheus. You won’t have had to look too far either: if you’ve got Facebook, then he’s bound to have popped up in your news feed. Most recently touting his new Four Percent Group.
Vick is an enigmatic character. It’s all too easy to dismiss him as another conman, but he’s much more than that.
While the term “scammer” gets thrown around a lot, it is actually justifiable to level that charge at Vick as he was convicted of grand theft in 2007, and sent to prison for three months.
That’s kind of hard to wiggle out of, or escape in these days of the net and every bit of news living on it forever.
And then there’s the previous business courses: 7 Figure Marketing School, High Traffic Academy, Big Idea Mastermind, all of which are defunct now. I never joined any of them but I’ve read that one day users went to login, and they’d just vanished and that was that; no refunds or explanations to existing members.
And there’s the accusations that Vick switched affiliate ids with his students/subscribers, so they paid him by way of the course fees and subscriptions, and that not being enough he stole the affiliate commissions from the traffic they paid to drive to their own sites (hosted on his platform).
So, yeah, you’d have to be some kind of magician to still be making money – and a ton of it – from selling the same sort of failed courses you’ve left in your wake, with a conviction for fraud no less.
But Vick is!
If you’ve ever watched one of his presentations you’d know why too… the guy does seem to know his internet marketing, and he is very, very charismatic and disarming.
I checked out Vick’s latest offering in the form of The Four Percent group, and I’ll admit, Vick’s got me hooked to the point where I’m considering getting my wallet out and giving it a try! Knowing this is a pitch from a convicted conman and that looking into his eyes is like the hypnotic effect Count Dracula holds sway with.
Vick Strizheus yesterday
Like Dracula, I think Vick is only interested in people in the same way too.
I know all that…
…yet Vick’s got me wondering if I really do? Know that for sure about him.
Because, damn it, give Vick 30secs and you find yourself still there 30mins later. He makes Tai Lopez look like an amateur.
I joined Vick’s Four Percent Group. There. I said it.
Not obviously the monthly membership program that’s perpetually offered at the get-it-while-you-can knockdown price of $49, reduced from some two hundred and forty odd bucks – a month – or so it’s claimed, but the free membership. The one that you get in exchange for giving Vick your email.
Not my real email either, the one I reserve for signups so my main email remains clutter free.
But nevertheless I signed-up to take a look. Vick had walked me in off the street to the front door, and I’d given my name (well, a name anyway) to get me over the threshold into reception. Willingly.
This guy is good.
This is the same guy who also made a killing on Empower, and anyone who’s read what I think of that, will know what I think of those who touted it.
That’s almost like saying you were a war criminal in IM as far as I’m concerned. The only thing Empower cares about is the money, not your results. Which coincidentally is the same thing the best affiliates of the system care about too.
Apparently Vick got booted from Empower, though… I mean, how bad do you have to be before even other scammers, scammers you’re making money for, think you’re too unscrupulous to associate with?!
So, yeah, with Vick’s history, I’d advise to not only close your browser if you come across him, but to shutdown your computer, and run far, far away in the opposite direction.
But, damn, like I say, Count Dracula’s got me thinking, maybe he’s not all bad? I mean, he explained away the circumstances of his grand theft conviction in a vid a while ago. It was all very heartfelt too. And he’s got a reply for anyone who thinks they were let down by him in the past – they just weren’t committed to the program like they should’ve been.
Vick claims too, to have started in IM green, borrowed $30k dollars (and I’ve read claimed that wasn’t a ‘loan,’ it was the money he stole off that fraud conviction he had to pay back), and was in a hole till he figured it all out…
… which was probably to abandon actually trying to make money off of driving traffic to Clickbank products, but to start pitching his own products.
“Picks and shovels,” as he’s fond of saying.
There’s no doubt, that is the fastest way to IM riches in my opinion – if you can get a foothold in it – which is why there’s a number of gurus you’d never heard of until they started pitching such programs, doing it. Like Tai Lopez.
And Vick is rich. He’s done real well out of the internet, I have no doubt about that. He’s definitely in the 4% of people actually making real coin from internet marketing, which is where he takes the name of his group from.
I watched what was available for free in Vick’s free membership area, and the majority of it is setting your affiliate accounts up… plus upgrading, in order to activate your “multiple income streams.”
On the face of it, I have to say the pitch, and the underlying system looks good(!) If you’ve ever done paid traffic drives, you might think, why not? Try this one for a month (no contract, cancel anytime) and see what happens? The commissions look good, and the ecosystem that takes care of supplying all the IM marketing tools you need to work online, and are recommended within the training, are sound and legit.
Except the problem is, to get commissions off the systems Vick preaches, you have to sign-up to them first, which means the real monthly cost of being a member of the Four Percent Group is not $49, but more like $178:
The Four Percent Group: $49 p/m
Click Funnels: $97 p/m
Aweber: $19 p/h (min)
Click Magick: $12 p/m (min)
Name Cheap: ~ $11 p/a ($0.92 p/m)
That’s a bit steep, and bear in mind, you’re paying that through the months of trying to get this thing going.
And to get the “big ticket” sales you need to buy into Tecacdemics which is anything from $100 p/m to a one-off fee of $12,000.
Vick helpfully links to all these programs via an affiliate link of his own, too… but if you get a sign-up to the Four Percent Group i.e. the person stopped by from your link, these will be your affiliate links that get used (if Vick isn’t switching them out with his own).
“Picks and shovels.”
The training Vick says he provides, I’m not sure what that’s in, other than “making money online” but Vick says they have training courses in many industries, so you can pick what you want to promote. I’ve no idea of the quality of these courses, or if they’re just thinly veiled vehicles to try and squeeze additional commissions out of.
You don’t have to do that. That’s taken care of by the folks looking after, and serving up, the training modules. It’s not even that mercenary, as if you do want to move forward online, you will need these products, and Vick’s right, folks will get them anyway, so may as well get them via your affiliate link.
Except I’ve seen reviews saying the Four Percent Group doesn’t do a damn thing re follow up calls, and the main thrust of the program is to recruit more folks into the group, not any products in real estate or whatever.
What a fecking surprise.
This section of one of Vick’s Four Percent member webinars/training sessions, suggests it’s about member recruitment to generate your income, not so much using the training and tools to market anything else.
So Vick’s got himself his very own little Empower. Maybe not as bad, but it’s still not good territory to be in, in my opinion.
How much on top of everything else it’ll cost you to drive enough traffic, by whatever means, to get Vick another customer, I don’t know. It’s all very well making a couple hundred extra a month, but not so much if you had to spend x2 or more than that to get it. Something Vick doesn’t reveal in his pitch when he’s perusing his Facebook news feed and rattling off income figures from members. Has to be said, members aren’t forthcoming either.
Remember as well, that an extra couple hundred a month will only cover your various subscriptions. You’ll be paying to drive free traffic to Vick’s program on top of that, so he can get more subscription and affiliate fees off your dime.
Four Percent members abound on Youtube, telling you how great it is, some with sales figures, but none of them that I’ve seen as yet, saying how much they’re spending to get these results.
All these ‘pyramid’ recruitment based ‘businesses’ are the same – the tribal psychology of it is always promoted, that you’re in some sort of exclusive group privy to secret knowledge – and the business owners, just love to call themselves that.
Who doesn’t want to think of themselves as businessman? Or an entrepreneur? At the very least you have a “team.” Sounds sexy and successful. Especially if your real job, the one that actually pays the bills, and the bill for being a member, is a lot more mundane.
Hence you see a lot of cringe worthy “CEO of…” on social media.
A lot of these folks are making shit, too. And I’ve seen the rants of folks saying that’s fine, that your ‘business’ needs a couple years to mature, and all businesses require investment.
Yeah, okay great – but it doesn’t hit all at once, you should see an upward curve, not nothing (or next to nothing) until then!
So, having said all that, I was still seriously considering joining this!
I didn’t, but I was. Truth be told, the thought is still rolling around my nubbin.
Like I say, Vick Strizheus is good. I want to like him. I want to believe in him.
Dracula’s hypnotic gaze is good.
But I haven’t fee-paying joined anything as yet, because we all know what happened to Renfield.
if you want to try out some affiliate training where the owners are free of a criminal record then check out Wealthy Affiliate.
It’s in the same price range as Vick’s group, not on a limited, one-time-offer knockdown hurry-to-get-it price, it’s always around that price so don’t worry about that.
There’s no credit card required for “verification purposes,” it’s free to join, and you get a week of free, full membership to test out the platform, see if you like it, and if it’s for you.
I did, and I stuck around. You can read my review here.
But don’t take my word for it, have a look-see at Wealthy Affiliate and see what you make of it for yourself.
Recommended further reading:
A classic you should be aware of if you aren’t.
Crack the Code to Wealth and Live Rich for a Lifetime!
by M. J. DeMarco