Ecommerce Empire Builders – Review

Peter Pru Empire Builders review

It’s amazing what a bit of snooping around in your own Facebook list of saved posts will throw up.

Not what’s in that list, but just what looking in it, and clicking on the links, will persuade Facebook to serve you up afterwards.

In my case, as my save list consists of sponsored posts hawking the opportunity to make me a millionaire, and I’d been checking them out for material to write on, Facebook noticed and decided I was a good candidate to see Peter Pru’s sponsored ad for his Ecommerce Empire Academy.

And I was, because I clicked it too (sorry, Peter, there goes another piece of your ad budget). I even signed up to watch the webinar.

No intention of buying whatever was about to be peddled, but I watched it.

But jeez, these webinars… they’re the hardest part of doing this. It’s like watching the same movie but with a slight change of setting and character name. Sort of like an Elvis or John Wayne flick (except I like those guys).

The theme here, though, wasn’t a beach party or the Wild West, but drop-shipping, with a hero named Peter Pru.

Your friendly neighbourhood ecommerce guru. So maybe a Marvel/DC movie would’ve been a better comparison, but whatever.

Anyway, pro tip for watching webinars: if the host says it’s going to last an hour and a half, add at least another forty-five minutes on top of that. If there’s one thing these webinar car salesmen love to do, it’s repeat themselves (particularly on how to pay them). They sure do love the sound of their own voices, and dear Peter was no different.

But it was a slow Sunday evening, so I got a large cup of coffee (should’ve added a shot or two to it), made sure I’d had a “comfort break” before starting, because there ain’t no pause or ad break on a webinar, and settled in to see this “amazing knowledge no one’s talking about”.

No one, according to Peter Pru.

And I was lucky: I managed to secure one of the spaces for the free webinar that runs on demand to unlimited viewers.

Who Is Peter Pru?

Good question.

You know you’re getting older when cops and doctors start to look too young for the job, and that was my first impression of young, fresh-faced Peter.

Still fresh-faced, despite manfully trying to sport a bit of unshaved stubble on a face that might need to nod hello to a razor all of two times a month.

Once upon a time, you could excuse the obvious youth of your wannabe gurus because the internet and internet marketing, were all so young… but this is 2020, and the internet ain’t so young anymore.

Peter sure is, though. Or looks it.

Peter Pru

Please love me

So I had a, “Who’s this kid?” moment, that wasn’t fully relieved until Peter pulled up his slideshow and got his baby face off screen – for the next two hours and twenty minutes.

Then I only had to contend with him speaking like a machine gun and wondering what he’d snorted before kicking this webinar off.

But anyway, who is he? Well, there’s not a lot of info floating around on the net to say for sure, so we have to take young Peter’s word on it, for who he is.

And according to Peter, he graduated in 2012, and according to other sources he’s 28 years-old now.

Older than James Beattie then, and I guess I should be relieved he’s old enough to get served a drink if he asks.

I still bet he gets asked for proof of age, though.

However, since graduating college Peter’s been busy, and built himself a $50k a month Amazon business which was doing well till some competitor reported him to Amazon with a false accusation relating to IPs or something.

That resulted in Peter’s business tanking, and as Amazon shoot first and ask questions later, he was taken offline.

A year later, Peter sorts it all out, but it’s all over for that particular ecommerce venture, and he’s left with forty thousand dollars of unsold inventory sitting in an Amazon warehouse.

We’re never told what he does with that, it just sort of gets forgotten about in the hero’s journey.

Luckily for us, Peter doesn’t let a little thing like failure keep him down, so once out of the doldrums of losing a bit of side money to supplement the day job – to the tune of $80k a month high-ho – he pulls himself out of his funk, experiencing a transcendental epiphany that takes place at a McDonalds drive through.

Peter Pru discovers upsells


He discovers the power of upsells, having purchased fries and a coke with his burger.

I imagine a bright, shining light emanating from his car, temporarily blinding anyone in the vicinity of this miracle of financial enlightenment. I wonder too, if this was the moment Peter realised he wasn’t destined for the “mediocre and boring life”, such as the rest of us little people lead (and can be spared if we buy his program).

It was from this epiphany that a million dollar ecommerce business sprung forth, earning Peter exclusive membership to the “two comma” club… and all thanks to the angel of this story, the unnamed McDonald’s server who asked if he wanted fries and coke with that burger.

The proof we have of that million dollars business claim, comes from another member of the two comma club, Russell Brunson. We see Peter pictured with him, as Brunson hands over an award for putting a million dollars worth of sales through Clickfunnels (and thus making Brunson even richer off his %).

Peter Pru Clickfunnels 2 comma club

I is an expert

I’ll assume that’s true, the million bucks. It won’t be net, and who knows what sort of ad budget was needed to drive a figure like that, but we’ll assume it’s true.

But even gross, I’ve got to say, it’s a pretty impressive figure.

However, I can’t give him much kudos for being snapped sitting on a Lambo, though. That’s standard guru fare, and means nothing.

Especially disappointing as his Facebook ad said he wouldn’t be doing that… and then he went and did it.

Peter Pru sitting on a Lambo

I was disappointed.

I don’t know if Peter made that million dollar figure before or after he got into the guru game, though.

Ecommerce Empire Academy isn’t his first foray into the paid program market, he started with Six Figure Funnels first, and then rebranded it to Empire Academy. I imagine he did that to try and distinguish it from the multitude of other “Six Figure [insert online business du jour here]” offerings out there.

Peter also claims to be one of Tai Lopez’s mentors, having been flown to Tai’s place in order to teach him the very same strategies he’s about to share (or some of them anyway).

Which means Tai could’ve saved himself the cost of a plane ticket and just fired up this webinar.

But that right there is just how much VALUE we’re gonna be getting, even just from this webinar with its “3 secrets” – and that’s without buying the actual program!

Damn, I was on the edge of my seat. If something can get Tai Lopez to shut up and sit down for ninety minutes, then I’d watch just for that. I mean, that’s not just a secret but a bona fide magic trick!

And just like Tai, Peter grew up with a poor family, and then graduated college ($80k in debt), but unlike Tai he actually flirted with having a real job.

Peter shows us a pic of his old, soul destroying office cubicle, which naturally didn’t fulfil him. Doing what 99.99% of the rest of humanity does, and has done, since time immemorial: working a job.

And who can blame Peter, he just thought that was what you were supposed to do in life – provide a means to keep a roof over your head and food on your plate.

Which, err, despite what these gurus try to sell, it is.

It’s called “work” for a reason, and it’s rarely soul enriching. In fact, I’m not even sure it’s meant to be? Because that’s not the point of it, or why we do it.

Sure, we all get a moment of existential angst on occasion and wonder if this is what we should be doing with our time on this Earth, but I’m not sure a $997 drop-shipping course is going to be the poultice that heals your soul.

Oops! I gave it away – the big reveal of the program price at the end of the webinar.

I hope I didn’t ruin the “surprise” too much there.

Ecommere Empire Academy – The Program

Before we get to what this is even all about, we get shown the people using the system we’re about to see, flaunting their success in the inevitable free Facebook group that’s set up for them.

Ecommerce Empire Academy success stories

Also inevitable is that none of the Facebook posts used as testimonials throughout this webinar include a year in the post date. That’s so the webinar can be run till doomsday, or the ad spend runs out.

However, rest assured that the people are legit, and they’re so legit that they get an actual award – from Peter – to put on their mantelpiece.

Empire Builders awards

This could be you

You could be one of these people, too. The small print at the bottom of the webinar signup warns you probably won’t be, but Peter’s a lot more sure that you will be when you can’t hold him to anything in writing.

Ecommerce Empire disclaimer

I’m a risk taker, so I registered

He says he’s helped “countless students find success” and students all over the world are “crushing it.”

In fact it was just after he began crushing it that he posted his strategies online, and got folks asking how he was achieving all this?

So he started the program this webinar is a funnel for, Ecommerce Empire Builders (by way of Six Figure Funnels as previously noted).

Actually, I wonder if Six Figure Funnels was one of those “more business failures than I can count” that Peter mentions.

See, I wonder what they were, and if he really had so many he couldn’t count them, all by the tender age of 28 years-old.

I also wonder where these discussion groups and forums are to be found, where the fledgling Peter Pru is recounting his sales successes, with folks clamouring for his wisdom.

So what is this “amazing knowledge no one’s talking about” and the method “so powerful” it’s allowed him to change his life, and others, to be financially free.

It’s drop-shipping without a storefront.

Err… yeah.

Instead of going to Shopify, you go to Peter’s pal Russell at Clickfunnels, and advertise your wares there.

This is because Shopify sales pages are too busy, with too much going on (or something), and a single landing page for your product, followed through by upsell pages, is better.

Or a sales funnel, as it’s also known.

Peter cites the Shopify stat that 1.33% is the average conversion rate on its stores, which he says proves the traditional storefront doesn’t work as a landing page.

He doesn’t say what his conversion rates are, just that Shopify’s are meagre.

Shopify store

However, this approach is nothing new. I’ve seen this discussed and touted since I first tuned into e-business five years ago.

And the discussion/method probably goes back further than that, I’m just saying when I first happened on it.

So while “novel”, this isn’t anything new, I’m afraid.

This is the play:

  1. Send your potential customers to a single purpose product page instead of a store page.
  2. Get their email address.
  3. Send them to the order form page.
  4. Offer the customer multiples of the same product at a “deal” price.
  5. Send them to the upsell page.
  6. Clicking “buy” on the upsell page places the order, without giving the customer an opportunity to think or change their mind.

“This is absolutely incredible”, Peter modestly says of his own method.

Except I’ve seen this touted before.

Peter shows slides of just how much more money you could make in addition to each sale with this method, but again with no stats of his own to say how many folks who land on his page, buy anything at all.

The minus figures are explained as the lost profit on typical Shopify drop-shopping sales.

The large positive figures are the profit from employing Peter’s sales funnel. Naturally.


He does produces stats of those who DID buy, and what they opted for, but we’ve no idea what the percentage of visitors to buyers is.

But on the face of it, what Peter’s touting isn’t a bad idea, if not an original or unique one.

Secret #1: How To Pick Winning Products

There’s three secrets Peter wants to share with us. No one else knows these. Except, to paraphrase Captain Edmund Blackadder, only ourselves and the rest of the English speaking world with an interest in drop-shipping.

The secret to picking a winning product, is you go to Amazon, see what’s making the best sellers lists, and then sell it too.

“Absolutely incredible”, to quote Peter himself.

Yeah… that’s one of the “secrets”. That’s the sort of gold I’m sitting through this webinar to line my pockets with [/sarcasm].

So if you didn’t know, anything with a seller rank of under 20,000 is selling a lot a day, so you should get on that bandwagon, too.

But where do you get them, these products that your extensive market research has highlighted as popular with the public.

You get them from Aliexpress, Amazon, and Light In The Box. Or eBay. Or anywhere else you can find to buy and ship at cheaper than you’ll flog them for, and will ship without branding or cover notes.

Once you start making real money, Peter says you can brand your own products. Until then, drop-ship all the way.

If you’re worried about them long delivery times from China, then source sellers in the USA (or wherever in the world you are).

Of course you gotta hope them nearer-to-home sellers are selling at a price that still gives you a decent margin, and leaves you competitive with everyone else selling the same thing via Amazon or eBay… but never mind that reality.

So the advice to be had in the first “secret” is hardly stellar or ground-breaking.

It’s simply Drop-Shipping 101.

Secret #2: Ditch Shopify

Peter says you really need sales funnels, that even Shopify says so, but the platform isn’t built for them.

Sounds like Shopify is missing a trick, then. You’d think they’d address that, if it were really case. I mean, I’m pretty sure they’ve got the money and resources to introduce it as another paid add-on… and pick up a few more million bucks they’re leaving on the table according to Peter Pru.

But while Shopify’s working on that, you got Peter’s pal Russell Brunson to pick up the slack with his Clickfunnels.

Clickfunnels will come in handy with that $3.5k a week template funnel Peter’s going to share with us at the end of the webinar.

Course, you got to sign-up for Clickfunnels at $97 a month, but this is just details. Details that aren’t mentioned during the webinar.

Maybe it gets addressed in the actual program, and I’m wondering if Peter provides a handy masked affiliate link in said program that you can click on to sign-up for Clickfunnels with.

You don’t need Shopify if you go that route, that’s true, but Peter also tells us you don’t need Woocommerce, either.

Which is not really true, because if you’ve got a Woocommerce site you can create sales funnel pages, and there’s plugins available to do that.

Just you’ll have to recreate Peter’s templates as they won’t work on that platform. Everything Peter offers is geared to funnel you first and foremost to Clickfunnels.

And Clickfunnels makes everything all so easy that even a cave man could do it, so Peter assures us.

Personally, I think you’d have to have been just defrosted from the Neolithic for anything that’s been said so far to be revelatory.

Secret #3: Getting Customers

This is really the worst bit so far, and the big hole in all this. Up till now, everything is workable, if not new or attributable to Peter Pru, but this section is pretty dumb.

Okay, so like all programs this one, too, reassures you that you need no experience and no money to get start making money… but having a Clickfunnels page isn’t going to be a magnet for your customers all on its lonesome. You need to drive traffic to it. And that can be expensive.

So how do you get free traffic, if you’re not prepared to build up a website over years using the siren song of SEO?

Well, according to Peter, you hop on social media and check out the folks with a big following who are active in the realm of whatever activity it is that utilises your product.

Peter uses the example of fishing lures/flies, so he went on YouTube, looked up the folks in that niche, and contacted them. Reached out to them and asked them to feature and endorse his Aliexpress junk in their videos, and “link below” to his shit.

Which is where the wheels come off all of this.

Not because social media influencers aren’t above endorsing a $5 piece of Chinese crap to their audience, but because they’re not going to do that for a free sample or the twenty bucks Peter mentions.

Or just because you’ve shown that you’re “different” and looking to build a long term business relationship… with no website or email list, just your first Peter Pru Clickfunnels template.

I’m betting your social media influencer has a better grasp on drop-shipping than you do, if you’re dumb enough to come cap in hand, knocking on their door like that.

These influencers get paid for shout outs and links, and they don’t do it for free or twenty bucks either. You’re going to pay hundreds, or thousands, for that sort of ad placement.

Where you’ll pay twenty bucks is where the influencer has twenty subscribers. Check out influencer costs here.

This shit just will not fly, I’m afraid.

Even with trying to convince us that his green and fresh student Bronson landed an influencer with a million followers in his first month.

For free? I call bullshit on that.

You can forget that strategy. If you want to drive traffic to your sales funnel, you’re using the pay-per-click ad platforms like Google and Facebook.

What Peter Pru says in the ‘Secret 3’ section is where he reveals himself as just another bullshit artist, in my opinion.

The Program Content

I’ll let Peter explain that:

module 1

So basically a lot of fluff for Module One relating to mindset and preparing for success.


module 2

We’ve already covered product identification. Ethical sales tactics? He doesn’t use them in the hard-sell of this program to come.


How to squeeze maximum revenue out of every customer… that should be a heads-up for you as a customer of Peter’s.

module 4

How to charge for common marketing knowledge you can get for free?


module 5

How to get influencers begging to promote your products? Be a big paying, big brand. They’ll fall over themselves.


module 6

Ah, Facebook ads. I was wondering when we’d get to them… and why do we need them anyway if we’re getting free exposure to our target buyers from influencers?


module 7

You don’t need this module because this will never happen.

The Program Sell

This bit takes up a whole forty minutes, including the pre-prepared slides that are supposed to be spontaneous webinar attendee questions.

These guys can never just tell you what the price is, you have to get the full market trader rundown of fictitious, made-up prices, of bonuses and add-ons, to make it seem like that $997 really is a bargain.

Empire Builders cost

That “total value” may as well be payable in Monopoly money, it bares as much relation to reality.

Because if Peter Pru thought he could charge $24,991.00 for his standard-issue, common knowledge, freely available elsewhere, recycled drop-shipping advice, he would.

Peter keeps repeating that $997 is “just a drop in the bucket” (shouldn’t that be “ocean”?) compared to what you’ll make with his “wildly profitable” system, and even though he previously derided other ‘fake’ drop-shipping gurus and get-rich-quick schemes, that’s exactly the type of hard-sell he’s pushing now.

Complete with fake sales pings going off of people rushing to buy.

There’s “no risk” either as you’ll get your money back and an extra insurance payment, if you fail with this “proven system.”

Ecommerce Empire Builders guarantee

Fat chance

But I’d bet you’ll never, ever, meet the standard required to get that money back as you’ll have to satisfy the sales team (Peter and his wife) that you failed whilst faithfully implementing the system.

No one gets rich selling online programs and honouring the ‘promise’ of a refund.

Peter stokes the fire some more by saying that within thirty days of joining you could be making $30k or $50k a month!

That you’ll learn more in thirty days than in four years of college, and without the $80k of debt (Jeez, what did Peter major in, and where did he go to school? I’d avoid it if that’s the case).

Then we get the testimonial from Mike, who we’re told is turning “massive amounts” of profit, and sold his Shopify store for $50k (but I thought we didn’t need one?)

Mike Ecommerce Empire Academy success story

But Mike looks broke. The folks in testimonials always do. They’re always in some grim box room that doesn’t exactly suggest “success” and riches.

And Mike doesn’t look like a guy heading for $100k a month in net profits i.e. $1.2million in a year. Not in that picture he doesn’t.

It’s relentless the hard sell in the webinar at this point, worse than usual for these things:

  • You get access to weekly live webinars + recordings.
  • Peter charges $1k an hour for his coaching.
  • You get access to his private library of 7 figure templates funnels, not shared anywhere else, and he doesn’t do this often (just every time the webinar plays) and it isn’t shared anywhere else.
  • His sales funnel library sells for $15k (shows some e-receipt of some idiot that supposedly bought it).
  • $15k is a steal he says (without a shred of irony at using the word “steal”).
  • But there’s more – Peter does over the shoulder training too! Watch as he builds his next seven figure business and scales it to eight figures. No one else is doing that! (Yes they are, it’s rife in the industry, the over-the-shoulder thing).
  • You can make your money back in 2 days!
  • Again, that $997 will be a drop in the bucket within six months if you do what peter says!
  • Extra bonuses to sweeten the pot – but don’t tell anybody! Only for action takers – he will personally review your first funnel, and that’s $5,000 in value right there (his usual fee).
  • Bonuses will be gone tomorrow, or when clock hits zero!
  • So many of our students are absolutely crushing it!
  • 16 year-olds making $50k a month!
  • I want to give you a great life!

The final touted cost with them bonuses:

Empire Builders touted cost with bonuses

Oh rly? $997 seems like such a bargain now!

Man, it was a barrage of marketing bullshit and promises, only missing Peter calling out, “Roll up, roll up!”

But what really turned me off, where the trust was totally and unequivocally lost, was when Peter declared that if you couldn’t afford the $997, even with the Paypal credit scheme, then you’re the person who needs this most. That you need to get in right now. That you need to figure out how to get in.

“You fail because your friends and family who don’t understand and won’t support you.” Wow. That’s some MLM, cult-like thinking right there he’s promoting. Yeah, I bet his little Facebook group encourages you to shun friends and family who don’t think you should be spending any more on upsells with Peter Pru.

That’s pretty sickening. That says to me he doesn’t give a shit about anything, except extracting the money from your wallet. That sort of “advice”, encouraging folks to put themselves in debt, hurt themselves like that, is just poisonous. That just puts me in mind of Matt Lloyd.

He had something of baby face, butter-wouldn’t-melt-in-my-mouth, too.

What Do I Think of Ecommerce Empire Academy?

I think if you want to save $997, you should just watch Peter Pru’s YouTube channel.

I’ve watched a few of his vids and I reckon you’ll learn all you need to know of his method right there for free. In fairness, they’re not bad.

And there’s hundreds of other similar YouTube accounts dispensing drop-shipping advice too.

If you want it all packaged up… then no, I’m still not going to recommend it. Not because of the price, and not even because of that Matt Lloyd homage he did at the end, imploring you to save yourself from poverty by putting yourself into even more debt by giving him the $997 you don’t have.

No, I don’t recommend it because telling you that you’re going to get free exposure and sales from social media influencers, is just flat out bullshit.

Seriously, if he’s going to try and sell you on that fantasy, then fuck him.

You’re going to shell out for the program, Clickfunnels, and then more again using paid ads to drive traffic to your sales funnel.

A whole module of the program is devoted to Facebook ads. That’s where you’re headed, not free influencer marketing. You’re being misled massively to believe otherwise.

And if you believe the money will come “flooding in”, all for working thirty minutes a day, then I’ve got a bodybuilding program I’d like to sell you that promises you can look like Schwarzenegger in his prime, and you don’t have to move off your couch to achieve this in under a month.

Peter tells us we can “100% have it” – financial independence – but the only empire he’s interested in building is the bank account that goes by the name of Empire Holdings Group.

Make Money Without Hurting Yourself

Forget spending $997 and then that again on Facebook ads, or making an ass of yourself contacting influencers with a gift basket of Aliexpress tat, try something that’ll make you a buck without hurting you.

Despite what Peter says, a website is a plus, and you can get that (25 of them in fact) and all the training and tools you need to make some money online at Wealthy Affiliate (WA).

I joined them in 2016, stayed, and actually made some money. I can’t say that of any other damn thing I tried. Not consistently anyway.

Of course the format suits me because I like writing (obviously) and have a bit of perseverance – and believe me, it’s easier to persevere when it’s not costing you $97 a month like Clickfunnels does (and that’s AFTER you’ve shelled out to Peter Pru).

So check it out. You can read my full review of Wealthy Affiliate here.

You get a week’s worth of free membership to have a look round, see if it’s for you, no “credit card required for verification” bullshit, and a week’s long enough to decide if you want to stick around.

And you’ll probably make some money if you do.


  • T. Williams

    This is the biggest scam I have ever been taken for. These guys couldn’t even show up on the first phone call let alone refund my money. I am reporting them to every government bureau I can think of. DO NOT Be FOOLISH. I am disabled and they took full advantage of me yet refuse to even return texts. Find out later they do not even have a phone number. if that isn’t a scam i don’t know what is. What kind of losers to do, looks like everyone online these days does. You can’t trust anyone!

    • Adam

      Sorry to hear you got ripped-off, but not entirely surprised.

      So much for Peter Pru’s “30 day double your money back guarantee”. That was always less likely to happen than making back that “drop in the bucket” $997 in same month.

      Actually, your odds on winning the lottery by using that $997 to buy tickets is more likely.

  • wayne

    my friend just bought the course and didn’t get any response. what can we do for now???
    anyone can give any advice?

    • Adam

      If you mean your friend didn’t get anything, then I’d contact your credit card provider/Paypal, and inform them you didn’t receive the goods paid for.

      If you mean, as per the above previous comment that the promised personal call/coaching wasn’t forthcoming, then I’m not so sure what you can do about that.

      Sorry to read your friend got ripped-off too.

  • W, Ike

    I liked your article. No offense. But, aren’t you selling something at the end of it all. WA costs $50 per month. I happened to your site because I was reading Peter’s site and watched his introduction video. So you know a little about me; I am very skeptical. That’s why I went to review searching and found you. I think every Ecommerce guru is a fraud and that they are only successful in taking peoples’ money. I don’t think they ever or rarely made it in Ecom.
    However, I liked your read and it’s informative even though you threw in your little sales pitch in the end. At least it wasn’t a $30,000 value for $997. LOL

  • Pi

    Hi Adam, I really like your post here very informative yet very fun to read (I never really commented on a blog post, but this is a really good insight and I want to add my insight to this) I really really hope your article comes up on top when someone searches ‘xxx program review’ before other affiliate review sites who just want people to sign up so they can take their share.

    Anyway, if anyone stumbles across my comment here, I would like to add my two cents on e-commerce courses and actual e-commerce business (disclaimer: I’m in e-commerce, but I’m not selling any course, so don’t worry. no upsell at the end)

    Just by the nature of my interest on internet, I’ve always been bombarded with target ads for e-commerce and marketing courses. I’m very curious and actually sign up for one just to see what it’s like (hint: it’s one of many flavors from ClickFunnels courses). First, a lot of people is asking if funnel-related is a scam. Short answer: no. But you have to understand what it’s actually is.

    ClickFunnels, for example, is just a software that let you build a sale funnel easily. So, if you want to sell something, then yes, a sale funnel would help you increase your conversion. Now, ClickFunnels has a very generous affiliate program (I think it’s 40% monthly revenue) so you would see a lot of people promoting their software or even signup for ClickFunnels to promote ClickFunnels.

    The course that I signed up for essentially tells you that if you don’t have anything to sell, you can just sell ClickFunnels… At the end of the day, it’s a very big network of MLM game disguised in software or infoproduct form (you were referred by someone to learn about referral so you can teach someone else how referring someone else can make you rich and hence should use your referral link).

    I see a lot of posts comparing funnel landing page vs regular store page. The main argument is that you want to trick people emotionally to spend money with you (through affiliate or buy your product) before they have buyer remorse. Does it work? yes. Should you do it? It depends. At somepoint, you might run into cognitive dissonance issue. Since you can trick someone to pay you for something easily, you should always do it?

    My last point on dropshipping and e-commerce. A lot of folks will tell you dropshipping is the best, FBA is the best, wholesaling is the best. But if you want to get into e-commerce and stay for the long term, don’t be a dropshipping seller, don’t be an Amazon FBA seller, BE “E-commerce brand owner.” Treat it like a real business. Build a team, offer actual useful products instead of tricking people to buy yours through sale funnels. A million-dollar mark is possible, however, it’s not as easy as it sounds. It takes some grind. (I’m not there yet, but I believe I will).

    Quick check on seeing if it’s ethical: imaging if your mom (assume you guys have a good relationship) was targeted by your dropshipping funnel ads, will she be proud of you when she find out that you’re the owner?

  • Sharon McLeod

    Thanks for the information. I was about to buy the $977.00 package. I’m happy I read this.

    Please do an exposé on Sophia Howard.
    I paid $3570.00 for an Amazon FBA business only to be saddled by $2400.00 more to get started. I cannot get a refund. What do I?

    • Adam

      I’m afraid there’s probably nothing you can do to get a refund. These hucksters are notorious for having a convoluted refund policy, and even if you meet it, then the fall back position is just to ignore you. Once they have your money, it’s gone.

      Never heard of Sophia Howard but new “gurus” spring full-formed every day on the net. I’ll take a look at her.

    • I never heard of Sophia Howard and i have been doing Amazon FBa for 5 years now and i am close to that community so it must be a scam. You need to do your detailed research before investing so much money in a course.

  • Lucy

    I signed up for the Empire Academy course which teaches you to sell on Amazon FBA. The only reason I purchased it was because they had a money back guaranteed. When I begun the course, I realized what I had signed up. Nothing. Frankie talks to fast and doesn’t teach you anything. He goes through an app so quickly, scrolling up and down and then he is done. I didn’t get anything out of this course, so I asked for my money back. They made a million excuses, asked me to jump through hoops to get my money back. I did what they asked and still they refused to return my money. I contacted my bank because I pay with a credit card through PayPal and I thought I was protected but they didn’t do anything for me. Empire Academy kept my money. I lost $1000 when I make $10/hour. It took me a long time to save that money. It hurts to have been taken advantage of. I don’t know what else I can do.

    Please! Do not sign up for any courses that these guys are teaching; Frankie and his partner and their team are nasty if you ask for your money back. They ignored my emails until the deadline of the money back guaranteed.

    • Adam

      Really sorry to read of your experience, Lucy, but unfortunately it seems to be the same with all these online, intsa-guru, get-rich-quick hucksters.

      Other folks, take note. Don’t waste your money on this crap.

  • o thank God i read this info as i was going to buy today , and i figured i should check the review before and here it goes ..

  • Bess

    Please don’t give them your money!!!!! This is the biggest scam!!!! You will not get your money back!!! I tried to get my money back and they sent me a ridiculous list of things I had to do to get a refund. The list included ordering CLick funnels which is probable a scam too. I needed to provide them 40 instagram influencers I reached out to and 20 youtube influences I reached out to and funnel statistics. You will have to do the first three modules and the homework included. Do you really think an influencer is going to give you the time of day? Well, don’t be duped. They say you should order a product to see the quality as the first step well Aliexpress has a shipping time of between 30-50 days so you won’t get your product until after the 30 day refund period is over. If you are reading this you are lucky you saved some cash. Best wishes.

    • Adam

      Yeah, I said that, that no influencer with reach is going to give you a shout out for nothing. It’s why they want to be influencers – to get paid for flexing that influence. Total bullshit claim that some ‘student’ landed a co-partnership with an influencer with 1m subscribers… for nothing. Not an invention or new market product, just a bit of Aliexpress tat to hawk.

      But the biggest bit of bullshit is the money back guarantee. Had no doubt it’d include so many clauses and conditions that the Devil himself would be envious to read the terms & conditions.

  • Mak

    What about Asigo System? do you know anything about them? are they the same scamming people? I signed up for their platform and course for $2997 with a 60 days full refund guaranteed. Please tell me if i didn’t do the mistake of my life?

  • Debbie

    Thank goodness I do not have serious money to throw around because it makes me hesitate and check reviews first. This is an awesome site with a ton of helpful advices! Thank you! All the sales talks are tempting & make you want to jump & join the bandwagon, but I am very skeptical about the strong-arm tactics of “today only price” and “a 30K value program, you pay only less than 1K” BS. Whew! So sad for those who got scammed. It pays to check around first … look before you leap! Thanks again!

  • Andrew

    So i signed up to ecommerce empire builders before i read this. (its too late now for a refund). The 5 module course is ok if you are a beginner. You will learn a few things here and there. (Definitely not worth the investment. You can learn most of this on youtube now. its pretty much a DIY business after you finish your modules)

    They scheduled in a 45min phone conversation to talk about my goals and what i want to achieve with Ecommerce Empire builder. Guess what was at the end of the conversation? yes another sales pitch. Sales pitch is as followed:

    1 on 1 zoom meeting to have a chat with Peter.
    They will create a click funnel sales page.
    They will pick and select a niche and a product for your store
    social media ads will be built for you – you will pay FB ad will be well above $1,000 A MONTH to start off
    i think they said it was a $97 a month to keep store running
    Mentorship: where you can ask questions. 3 zoom calls a week.
    24/7 support

    And here are the prices
    3x month membership for the above – $12,000USD
    6x month membership for the above – $15,000USD
    12 x month membership for the above – $18,000USD
    Lifetime membership for the above – $25,000USD

    Verdict: its a waste of time and money. You can learn things yourself these days online. if you have a decent understanding of sales funnel but are not tech savvy. You can go on fiverr and get someone to create a sales funnel and tell them basically what you want at a fraction of the price these guys are charging.

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